From the series What if...the Paraguay War hadn't existed.

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Historical events are often unfair, and many of these events led Brazil to the pit that they are right now. Most of the times people brag about their country's history being proud of the nation that they come from. In my understanding, you can be proud of your origins and culture. But we need to be frank that many events just ruined the country and made it to be where they are right now. Brazil is a country with beautiful nature and despite of the corruption in the politicians, the people has a warm heart. What are the historical events that I would interfere with in the past that could change a bit the current present of the country?


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Many important events are the cause of our current position considered as a country in development and that always depended on commodities. The colonization of the country like all the other countries of Latin America was different from Canada/USA. The Europeans came to the country to exploit nature instead of trying to build their new home. At least most of them! Portugal colonized us and they just wanted to extract the natural products from their country, they never intended to create a new home in our country. The country's future could be different if the Dutch or French invasions had different results. Both invasions had a goal that differed a bit from the Portuguese people, they had more of a focus on permanent residency for the immigrants coming from Europe, especially the France Antarctique which was temptive of colonization in Rio de Janeiro that brought protestants from France that wanted to find a new home, but the Portuguese just expelled them from the country.

Some big revolutions were oppressed by the dominant rulers of the country like the "Canudos War". Canudos was a community created by Antonio Conselheiro and was focused on better social distribution and against the abuse of the elites in the early period of the country as a republic. The government sent the army to destroy the community since they tagged them as a community that wanted back the monarchy to the country, which wasn't the truth. The real truth is that they were refusing to pay taxes to the country and also becoming popular in bringing poor people and slaves to this new community that was growing a lot. Other interesting events were highly oppressed, but still, it isn't the event that I would change.

In my head, the event that was an important mark not only for Brazil but for all of South America was the Paraguay War. One thing that I always hated is that countries like us always were a puppets of the great powers of the world. England was the great power at the end of the XIX century and it was the one behind this conflict since it had commercial interests in the region and Paraguay was growing as a regional power, technology leader and also in trading. However, Paraguay had a protection policy with their products. So England "recommended" with financial goodies to Argentina, Uruguay and Brazil to invade Paraguay. Of course, Paraguay wasn't a totally good country since they wanted to expand a bit their territory.

But if I could convince the king of Brazil at that time, Dom Pedro II (yeah we were a monarchy once) to not participate in that war. It could save Brazil from losing money and people in this war in the name of the others. The only bad thing is that probably the king would stay a bit more after since that war was one of the excuses that the country's elite decided that we needed to change to a republic. But it would be interesting to see Paraguay to continue to grow independent of any other European nation. After this conflict Paraguay went to a hole that is still there, they lost their economy, territory, and human souls.


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That conflict helped a lot for South American countries to continue in their route of big economic dependency on the great powers of the world that lasted until now. Nowadays Brazil is considered a big regional power, but it is just a mask. The truth is that if the conflict didn't exist, probably we would have a real regional power independent from European or North American power. It is something that I would love to see the consequences.


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Eventos históricos são frequentemente injustos, e muitos desses eventos levaram o Brasil ao buraco em que está agora. Na maioria das vezes, as pessoas se gabam da história de seu país, tendo orgulho da nação de onde vêm. No meu entendimento, você pode se orgulhar de suas origens e cultura. Mas precisamos ser francos, pois muitos eventos simplesmente arruinaram o país e o fizeram chegar onde estão agora. O Brasil é um país com uma natureza linda e, apesar da corrupção dos políticos, o povo tem um coração caloroso. Quais são os eventos históricos em que eu interferiria no passado que poderiam mudar um pouco o presente atual do país?


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Muitos eventos importantes são a causa da nossa posição atual considerada como um país em desenvolvimento e que sempre dependeu de commodities. A colonização do país como todos os outros países da América Latina foi diferente do Canadá/EUA. Os europeus vieram para o país para explorar a natureza em vez de tentar construir seu novo lar. Pelo menos a maioria deles! Portugal nos colonizou e eles só queriam extrair os produtos naturais para seu país, eles nunca tiveram a intenção de criar um novo lar em nosso país. O futuro do país poderia ser diferente se as invasões holandesa ou francesa tivessem resultados diferentes. Ambas as invasões tinham um objetivo que diferia um pouco do povo português, elas tinham mais foco na residência permanente para os imigrantes vindos da Europa, especialmente da França Antártida que era tentadora da colonização no Rio de Janeiro que trouxe protestantes da França que queriam encontrar um novo lar, mas os portugueses simplesmente os expulsaram do país.

Algumas grandes revoluções foram oprimidas pelos governantes dominantes do país, como a "Guerra de Canudos". Canudos foi uma comunidade criada por Antonio Conselheiro e estava focada em melhor distribuição social e contra o abuso das elites no início do país como uma república. O governo enviou o exército para destruir a comunidade, pois os rotulou como uma comunidade que queria a monarquia de volta ao país, o que não era verdade. A verdade real é que eles estavam se recusando a pagar impostos ao país e também se tornando populares em trazer pessoas pobres e escravos para esta nova comunidade que estava crescendo muito. Outros eventos interessantes foram altamente oprimidos, mas ainda assim, não é o evento que eu mudaria.

Na minha cabeça, o evento que foi um marco importante não só para o Brasil, mas para toda a América do Sul foi a Guerra do Paraguai. Uma coisa que sempre odiei é que países como nós sempre foram fantoches das grandes potências do mundo. A Inglaterra era a grande potência no final do século XIX e foi ela quem esteve por trás desse conflito, pois tinha interesses comerciais na região e o Paraguai estava crescendo como potência regional, líder em tecnologia e também no comércio. No entanto, o Paraguai tinha uma política de proteção com seus produtos. Então a Inglaterra "recomendou" com vantagens financeiras para a Argentina, Uruguai e Brasil invadirem o Paraguai. Claro, o Paraguai não era um país totalmente bom, pois eles queriam expandir um pouco seu território.

Mas se eu pudesse convencer o rei do Brasil naquela época, Dom Pedro II (sim, nós já fomos uma monarquia) a não participar dessa guerra. Isso poderia salvar o Brasil de perder dinheiro e pessoas nessa guerra em nome dos outros. A única coisa ruim é que provavelmente o rei ficaria um pouco mais depois, já que essa guerra foi uma das desculpas que a elite do país decidiu que precisávamos mudar para uma república. Mas seria interessante ver o Paraguai continuar a crescer independente de qualquer outra nação europeia. Depois desse conflito, o Paraguai foi para um buraco que ainda está lá, eles perderam sua economia, território e almas humanas.


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Esse conflito ajudou muito os países sul-americanos a continuarem na sua rota de grande dependência econômica das grandes potências do mundo que durou até agora. Hoje em dia o Brasil é considerado uma grande potência regional, mas é apenas uma máscara. A verdade é que se o conflito não existisse, provavelmente teríamos uma potência regional real independente da potência europeia ou norte-americana. É algo que eu adoraria ver as consequências.


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Old Dom Pedro II was the last king down there is I recall. It was kind of odd that there was a monarchy at all as most of South America went with presidents (dictators in reality.) Funny how one war changes everything, having seen wars first hand they shouldn't exist at all in my opinion!

The royal family still gets some benefits in Brazil hehehe , at least their descendants!

Engraçado que eu escuto tão pouco sobre essa guerra do Paraguai que as vezes nem lembro que ela existiu. Realmente é bom ler e entender melhor o que aconteceu naquela época.

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kkkk parece que nossa história é mais divertida do que parece

Realmente foi um período bem obscuro no continente. A população do Paraguai foi quase extinta se formos analisar apenas os homens.

Foi uma boa escolha, se esse conflito não existisse, também acredito que as coisas seriam até diferentes e interessantes em acompanhar.

Historia do Brasil é rica e nos ajuda mto a entender o pq a gente esta agora na chamada "america latrina" rss um professor meu costumava a chamar assim… muita dependencia eterna das potencias mundiais e sempre a elite mamando nem ai pra população!

Pois é... E pode passar anos e anos e estamos na mesma.

Preventing a war is always sound so peaceful, but if there wasn't any war that time, would the problem be gone? Would the tension just puffed gone like that?

It's not I support war and invasion, it's just I believe world is not as simple like that. What if Europe never did any colonization? Maybe they kill each other there

History was written by the victors, we never really know what happen back then

For sure we can try to predict but is difficult

Achei que todo mundo ia escrever sobre guerra e Hitler, então tentei pensar fora da caixa. Acabei me enrolando e dei algumas voltas. A guerra do Paraguai foi sangrenta, desnecessária, e nem está tão distante para termos nos esquecido da sua magnitude. Pena, nossas aulas de história estão fazendo falta!
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Eu me amarro em historia 😂 eu tinha varias ideias! Quase fui so de canudos! Eh tanta porrada q nosso povo sofreu pra chegar onde estamos!!

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I wish you can go back to the past and prevent the historic event but we all know it's impossible as we can't go back.

oh there shoul milions of war that would be better never happened...

how would be syria without civil war promoted by usa? and europe itself without turkey empire reaching vienna?

for sure yes!! but this was the greatest regional war in South America, for now at least!

i have never read about it in our history books, i guess they are more euro-centric...i got interested by your title to read about it😅

It is a very interesting conflict!! But It is is impossible to learn everything in school!! unless you go to a history university so you will have time to learn more about world stuff!
There are books about this conflict but not sure if you can find it English versions !

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The king of Brazil wouldn't have listened to you because people tend to learn from experience rather than advice. I hope he has learned one or 2 from the war

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