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in Hive Naija11 months ago (edited)

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NEW DISCOVERY

"The idea is to create original content for Hive not dump years of someone's blogs into Hive blockchain to farm rewards/get paid for that copypasta spam. There are some users who are an exception to this as they are popular influencers and they actively promote Hive on other platforms."

At a time like this when we have the angels of Hive( onboarders) tell their story due to the week 28 Hive Naija contest, it seems a perfect time to present the paragraph above to all and sundry. That is a statement made few days ago by someone I respect in Hive and it seems to re-configure my theology about this Hive ecosystem and how it works. It seems to say "no cross-posting".

So over to you onboarders, like the kind-hearted @dwixer, the diligent @balikis95 or senior man @kenechukwu97.

Prior Knowledge

Firstly, I fully understand that content in Hive should be mine or should I say original– no plagiarism, no breaking of copyright laws for pictures, appropriate sourcing and referencing, etc.

Therefore, my interpretation of "original content" was that whatever I post– text, pictures or even research materials must be original to me– that is, they are mine! However, that first paragraph of this my blog, suggests much more to me. It seems to decribe "original content" to mean that my work must first be published on Hive before cross-posting elsewhere. Infact I can say that it tends to downplay or maybe negate my earlier understanding of what an original content means– that is that I created the material myself.

If the above is true, it therefore renders what my onboarder taught me obsolete or something of that nature. He taught me that I can cross-postake to Hive, but it has to be my own work and I can affix a link as a footnote, so anyone can trace the cross-post to my very work.

But Now

Conversely, the current reality I think is that, once you sign up for Hive, you're obligated to publish your contents in Hive first. It's almost as if one is beholden to Hive as per posting.

Or maybe I should take this line in that first paragraph very literally– "..not dump years of someone's blogs into Hive.."". Meaning(the bold text) he is referring strictly to one's old work. So if an hour or 30 minutes ago I wrote something somewhere, it is allowed for me to post same on Hive. Is that correct please? [ I WELCOME SOME CLARIFICATION ON THIS]

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Why

So the "why" question now rears up it's head. Why Hive first? Someone answered somewhere that, one reason we must first post in Hive before elsewhere is because of how it is indexed in search engines. I'm not too clear with this @intishar, as I read through your onboarding is a responsibility.

Well I'm far from an authority in computer jargons, but if I may interprete that statement on search engines, I think it means that Hive wants to occupy the first position in the search engine indexing of materials linked to us( Hive). To what end? Well maybe this would help market the brand much more. I hope this will yield extra rewards for boggers here too.🙂🙃

I am informed that the vast majority of the Hive community has accepted the above cross-posting guideline and it is reflected in the proposal support. So my bad, I think, for not updating myself with the rules( or current rules) that guide happenings here.

Conclusion

I hope this has helped someone, plus I could do with more help from onboarders or anyone, to add more clarity to this whole new( to me ) guideline.

My onboarder has long stopped blogging, he told me years back that he's only focused on the gaming side of Hive, so I had to hone my craft here receiving help from so many very useful tips from strangers here and there and I have been so grateful to them.

I see interesting posts by hardworking onboarders here, like @seki1, @hopestylist and @hivedeb et al, I think I'm in good hands.

I have observed synergy thus far in this house of Hive Naija, so I anticipate useful comments pouring in.
Thanks

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You raised a lot of interesting talking points in this and I know there are some curation projects on Hive that has openly made a stand about cross posts. They say they don't want you to share your content any other place except on Hive. Once you start cross posting to othe chains, they will blacklist you on their curation.

Some others lean more towards saying that you can cross post, but the first post has to be published on Hive.

Well, the reason for the former is not so clear especially when a post published on Hive gets spread across various frontends like Peakd, Ecency, Proofofbrain & co.

What I know from all these is that If I have a post and I decide to cross post to 10 other chains, I will go ahead and do it. I just have to make sure that I will indicate that "the post is mine and cross posted to other places".

Of course, this means that I'm ready to do that while accepting that I may not get curated by folks who think I'm farming for sharing my own content in other places.

I can deal with that, as far as no one comes to downvote me for cross posting something that originally belongs to me.

I genuinely don't feel bitter about curators. They can use their vote to curate any post they like. However, I don't want anyone to dictate where I have to post my stuff. I can post my stuff wherever it will be accepted and where it aligns with the guideline of the chain or community.

When a real chairman in the industry speaks, you just feel it's holistic vibe. Thanks a lot for this well laid out exposé sir.
I jibe with your third paragraph that wonders the reason behind the "former".

What I can deduce in the first place is that there may hardly be any tribe that still freely allows what my onboarder taught me. Is it not also true that Hive wasn't as strict as this before?

Secondly, what if, peradventure, you get slated or down voted for your method, I hope it is easy to appeal that?

I smiled when you said you don't worry yourself about curators and their doings, I think it's a nice way to go about things.

Thanks for your time, still expecting answers please.

I don't really think Hive is ever strict or lenient at any given time. It's more about communities and big curators and how they are changing their rules and pattern.

At some point on Hive, AI generated stuff was frowned upon. Now, almost everyone uses AI generated images and I don't see a lot of people making a case about it.

However, once in a while, when there is a war between whales, it can come like this;

I may have a beef with you. So, you go and Downvotes posts that I upvoted. In the same manner, I downvote posts that got upvotes from you. Haha.

It's nasty and childish. However, this is why you can't really Appeal Downvotes. People say "It's part of the system" and they say "you didn't complain about upvotes. Why complain about Downvotes?".

It's funny though because when things happen like that, those that suffer the hit are the small accounts who are caught in the crossfire of those downvote wars. So, someone can get Downvotes for doing nothing wrong and you can't even complain. Why? Because it's a Blockchain and there is "no central body that exerts control". Lol. Maybe that's what we want to believe shaa

The summary of it all is; people get into trouble and people get $0.5 on posts even when they do nothing wrong and they have quality post that only exists on Hive. However, if you are going to get Downvoted, it's better to get it for doing nothing wrong than for doing something you believe to be wrong. Haha.

Good evening,
This is diving really deep in proffering answers, ogeewitty loves deep dives sir. I'm delighted seeing new things I can glean from.

My pick of them all is the conclusion –

"..if you are going to get Downvoted, it's better to get it for doing nothing wrong than for doing something you believe to be wrong. Haha."

So indeed there are inner workings to these things, the elephants sometimes fight and the grass suffers.🙂 It's okay o, I'm therefore advised to thread carefully be dat.

But on appeals, I know of the Hivewatchers team, they handle things like that.
Once whilst still new in Hive I joined a voting trail(School of minnows) that was clean(according to the organisers). It was going well for months until one day I noticed a downvote, then another, then it became normal in every blog I made.

I was alarmed, I saw the identity(spamminator), but I was too new in Hive to know who they were. I complained to the organisers and they led me to the channel of Hivewatchers, but I also requested that they come out and speak for me. It was eye-opening,reading their exchange with Hivewatchers, some of which were too technical for me to understand. It turned to be an issue between whales, just like you described.

Hivewatchers thus demanded I unsuscribe from the voting trail, to be free from spamminator downvotes. I spoke with the organisers privately and they wanting the best for me, agreed I do as Hivewatchers has said, but they swore that they would harass those whales behind the Hivewatchers directive.

It's indeed a tricky place Hive can be when you are slated for no fault of yours. Well we stay clean in our work here and God's grace sufficient.

Thanks a lot dear sire.

Remain cheerful.

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