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kenechukwu97 in Hive Naija • 10 months ago

You raised a lot of interesting talking points in this and I know there are some curation projects on Hive that has openly made a stand about cross posts. They say they don't want you to share your content any other place except on Hive. Once you start cross posting to othe chains, they will blacklist you on their curation.

Some others lean more towards saying that you can cross post, but the first post has to be published on Hive.

Well, the reason for the former is not so clear especially when a post published on Hive gets spread across various frontends like Peakd, Ecency, Proofofbrain & co.

What I know from all these is that If I have a post and I decide to cross post to 10 other chains, I will go ahead and do it. I just have to make sure that I will indicate that "the post is mine and cross posted to other places".

Of course, this means that I'm ready to do that while accepting that I may not get curated by folks who think I'm farming for sharing my own content in other places.

I can deal with that, as far as no one comes to downvote me for cross posting something that originally belongs to me.

I genuinely don't feel bitter about curators. They can use their vote to curate any post they like. However, I don't want anyone to dictate where I have to post my stuff. I can post my stuff wherever it will be accepted and where it aligns with the guideline of the chain or community.

10 months ago in Hive Naija by kenechukwu97

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ogeewitty 10 months ago

When a real chairman in the industry speaks, you just feel it's holistic vibe. Thanks a lot for this well laid out exposé sir.
I jibe with your third paragraph that wonders the reason behind the "former".

What I can deduce in the first place is that there may hardly be any tribe that still freely allows what my onboarder taught me. Is it not also true that Hive wasn't as strict as this before?

Secondly, what if, peradventure, you get slated or down voted for your method, I hope it is easy to appeal that?

I smiled when you said you don't worry yourself about curators and their doings, I think it's a nice way to go about things.

Thanks for your time, still expecting answers please.

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kenechukwu97 10 months ago

I don't really think Hive is ever strict or lenient at any given time. It's more about communities and big curators and how they are changing their rules and pattern.

At some point on Hive, AI generated stuff was frowned upon. Now, almost everyone uses AI generated images and I don't see a lot of people making a case about it.

However, once in a while, when there is a war between whales, it can come like this;

I may have a beef with you. So, you go and Downvotes posts that I upvoted. In the same manner, I downvote posts that got upvotes from you. Haha.

It's nasty and childish. However, this is why you can't really Appeal Downvotes. People say "It's part of the system" and they say "you didn't complain about upvotes. Why complain about Downvotes?".

It's funny though because when things happen like that, those that suffer the hit are the small accounts who are caught in the crossfire of those downvote wars. So, someone can get Downvotes for doing nothing wrong and you can't even complain. Why? Because it's a Blockchain and there is "no central body that exerts control". Lol. Maybe that's what we want to believe shaa

The summary of it all is; people get into trouble and people get $0.5 on posts even when they do nothing wrong and they have quality post that only exists on Hive. However, if you are going to get Downvoted, it's better to get it for doing nothing wrong than for doing something you believe to be wrong. Haha.

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ogeewitty 10 months ago

Good evening,
This is diving really deep in proffering answers, ogeewitty loves deep dives sir. I'm delighted seeing new things I can glean from.

My pick of them all is the conclusion –

"..if you are going to get Downvoted, it's better to get it for doing nothing wrong than for doing something you believe to be wrong. Haha."

So indeed there are inner workings to these things, the elephants sometimes fight and the grass suffers.🙂 It's okay o, I'm therefore advised to thread carefully be dat.

But on appeals, I know of the Hivewatchers team, they handle things like that.
Once whilst still new in Hive I joined a voting trail(School of minnows) that was clean(according to the organisers). It was going well for months until one day I noticed a downvote, then another, then it became normal in every blog I made.

I was alarmed, I saw the identity(spamminator), but I was too new in Hive to know who they were. I complained to the organisers and they led me to the channel of Hivewatchers, but I also requested that they come out and speak for me. It was eye-opening,reading their exchange with Hivewatchers, some of which were too technical for me to understand. It turned to be an issue between whales, just like you described.

Hivewatchers thus demanded I unsuscribe from the voting trail, to be free from spamminator downvotes. I spoke with the organisers privately and they wanting the best for me, agreed I do as Hivewatchers has said, but they swore that they would harass those whales behind the Hivewatchers directive.

It's indeed a tricky place Hive can be when you are slated for no fault of yours. Well we stay clean in our work here and God's grace sufficient.

Thanks a lot dear sire.

Remain cheerful.

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