Had they dropped the volume by 30% it would have been great -the band were really quite good - but as it was all one could hear was noise.

I don't even like loud cafes, there's a good one here that I like but the place is always loud due to the natural accoustics of the place...I can't fit there when it's busy.

I'm with you on the conversation thing...it's where I find value especially considering the group I was with last night, I can stay home and blast my (super-amazing) sound system if I want loud music. Anyway, we had a good night, even if we ended up divulging all the state secrets we should have hidden due to the Guantanamo Bay/hellish cacophony torture music.