RE: Hive Improvement Proposal: Decentralize blacklists on Hive

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marki99 in Hive Improvement • 5 years ago

I like the idea. Thanks for your work.

Btw, it is becoming absolutely necessary to include a "roadmap" on hive.io, I am getting feedback from a lot of friends visiting the website that they have no idea what is the goal of the crypto.

Hive is already working, but people in crypto are used to invest in future potential.

Since development is decentralized on Hive, I think a quick and easy way to deal with this would be to provide a link to the Chain News Badge created by @asgarth or a link to the HiveDevs community. What do you think?

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blocktrades 5 years ago

Yes, I don't think it's likely we'll see a unified "roadmap", as there are many different development groups working to add completely different features to Hive (opinion processing, games, social media features, etc).

I'll be making a post soon about the work BlockTrades has been doing.

And I'll also be making posts about plans for future work by BlockTrades as well. I've been holding off until we got finished with our current work, as I'll need to write several posts just to set the stage for the new capabilities I want to add to the Hive network.

Your previous suggestions could be good starting points for showing someone what's going on, but many of the posts in HiveDevs are about ongoing work as well as planned features. I created the Hive Improvements community to be a place where users could share ideas for how to improve the network, but it's also not an exact fit either, because it's about ideas more than concrete plans. But both of those could be good starting points.

There's also a group working on a new Hive whitepaper, but that's more of a general "What is Hive" instead of being a roadmap for new features.

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marki99 4 years ago

Hey, it's been a month since these comments, what is happening with the Hardfork? There's been no update from anyone for weeks. Tried to comment to @hiveio and got no response, even GitLab looks dead.

And could you point me to the group working on that whitepaper? I want to help them and be done with it, it's about time.

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blocktrades 4 years ago (edited)

"Eclipse" code was released to gitlab two days ago. I think @gtg is about to make a post where he's running a node for it. Hiveio is also planning to release something more formal. There's a lot of work to be done on the library side still, at least a week worth I suspect, with coordination challenges. Here's commit, it's quite huge: https://gitlab.syncad.com/hive/hive/-/commit/2074917f0735d9bdf22d33f5bdb089df3f6361b0

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blocktrades 4 years ago

For whitepaper, check with @guiltyparties . IIRC, he was considering putting it on github rather than gitlab. I haven't worked on it personally, so I'm not sure where collaboration is taking place.

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guiltyparties 4 years ago

Send me a message over on Discord please @marki99. You can find me on the Hive Discord at https://discord.gg/64YGqcy Whitepaper feedback is more than welcome.

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marki99 4 years ago

Would be glad to help, thanks for contacting me directly, will find you on discord soon.

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blocktrades 4 years ago (edited)

As a side note, visible activity on gitlab will be picking up now that devs have completed rebranding and moved work to public repo (at least for hived node software). Same will happen for hivemind shortly (probably in next few days), but changes there are still temporarily in private repo.

On a related note, the easiest way to see activity on a project is using a URL like this one for hive node: https://gitlab.syncad.com/hive/hive/activity

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marki99 4 years ago

Thanks for all the info and answers. People can't follow everything though, I think the hiveio account should be a bit more active.

It is not necessary to say exactly what is happening if it takes too much time to write up posts, but a weekly update that just says "progress is being made in private repos" is not a big ask.

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blocktrades 4 years ago (edited)

It's probably worth noting that the blocktrades group doesn't make posts via hiveio, so if you have suggestions for format changes or improvements, it's probably easier to take that up directly with people doing the work. I believe @crimsonclad is the primary writer of the final posts, usually.

Thinking about it, I think that your issue comes down to a core decision on the mission of hiveio: should it just be to report major events, or more of a weekly report. I personally don't have a strong opinion one way or the other.

One option is that I could write weekly reports for the work done by my own team, if that's what people want. The downside could be that those reports would be fairly technical, yet likely to receive high rewards, and this might just annoy people. Well, I suppose I could decline rewards, I always forget about that feature :-)

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blocktrades 4 years ago

Generaly speaking @howo is posting biweekly reports about dev meetings, which cover the work being done in more depth, plus early discussions about proposed changes and new features: https://hive.blog/@howo

In the last week, all BlockTrade devs have been pretty much buried in work associated with testing associated with new release, so I think we deferred the last dev meeeting until this Monday. @howo should be following up with a recording of that, plus a text summary afterwards.

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marki99 4 years ago

I follow @howo, just commented to him earlier today about the missing core dev meeting, so thanks for clarifying. He's probably also busy and doesn't have much time to post updates.

I don't want to keep distracting you, you spent a lot of time answering my comments, but maybe we should make a proposal to pay someone just to talk to the devs and put up some posts on @hiveio regularly. Weekly at least.

Doesn't have to be technical, just important to give some signs of life, and not disappear for three weeks.

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blocktrades 4 years ago

I answered some of the above in an edit to my previous reply.

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marki99 4 years ago

Yes, we commented at the same time...

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marki99 5 years ago

Perfect, the whitepaper is more than what I expected, it is not fun to write at all...

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