Follow The Money - Argentina's Inflation Crisis

in We Are Alive Tribe7 months ago (edited)

I have finished watching Follow The Money part 4. It is a documentary by Peter McCormack on youtube and follows his trip to Buenos Aires in Agrentina to look first hand at the inflation crisis there. Argentina is a place I would love to visit, particularly Buenos Aires, therefore I was intrigued by this documentary and to see if I would learn anything from it. The director is a Bitcoiner and here are my thoughts and observations from it.

I have never been to Argentina but I have met many people from there and people who have visited. When I think of Argentina, apart from Maradona, it is quite well known for its high inflation and it seem this year to have grabbed the headlines with a mainstream media labeled radical presidential candidate who is promising to fix things (when do politicians not?).

The election starts this week on the 22nd October where people can decide to continue with the status quo or go for the new guy promising some radical changes. It seems this could be a more pivotal election than has happened previously, but can a politician fix this inflation crisis?

The documentary is around 45 minutes long and first sees Peter meeting some locals at a ranch on the outskirts of the city and he gets some first hand opinions on the monetary problems there as well as riding a horse. He is very impressed that they drink wine at 10am and is impressed of this early drinking thing.

Peter interviews some people first hand in the style of Luis Theroux about how they are surviving with this inflation and asks how their day to day lives look like. He speaks with a range of people. Some feedback from a couple of business owners confirmed that it is hard to run a business there because the owners need to call the suppliers each day to check for price changes and get authorisation for price updates. One of the main complaints Peter recorded from business owners were that they were complaining of needing to spend a lot of time doing maths running their business.

When asked what prices are rising, he got answers like, the main necessities that people need go up in price most. Later on he interviews some people in the city and then people from a more rural poorer area and comes to conclusions that people in the city are managing quite well despite the inflation because they sell their pesos straight away for crypto stable coins it is implied, but the poorer people are unable to do this.

On the league table of fiat coins, Argentina is near the bottom of best performing. It seems that fiat money is the anti-thesis of a stable coin, yet when Peter tried to buy some pesos using the grey (black) market, he could pay using Tether on his phone. The dealer said this is the most popular stable coin to buy pesos with, which considering ETH gas fees, I am surprised.

However it makes sense to buy pesos using the grey market as the quoted exchange rate was double the official one, so you could lose out pretty badly. The country seems to be approaching the absurdity of the Weimar Republic with wheelbarrows of cash as I saw that the guy selling pesos brought huge wads of freshly minted notes for the few hundred dollars transactions.

The new radical presidental candidate Javier Milei was quoted by Peter as promising to dollarise the economy if he wins. Looking at the use of Tether by people to store value, it seems that it has already mostly dollarised. People are just going through the motions with pesos.

Peter speaks with quite a few more people and the discussions range from the government providing services and benefits and then the people are unhappy when the value of them goes down each month because they cannot control the inflation.

The reality seems in Argentina that the government cannot give something it doesn't have and those with some wealth are using the tools available to them to try and preserve their wealth such as using stable coins and Bitcoin. Although, most people said they are living day to day and cannot save anything due to the inflation.

Something that Peter didn't really touch on and was important to me was how do people earn their wages? Are they paid in pesos or in dollars? I would assume as prices go up for goods, if people earn pesos, their wages would also need to go up so they could afford to live and the spiral would continue.

An over-riding message from the video is that also that the government services are not working and they dont have enough funding, so people need to pay for most things privately. Peter then mentions if the government would just stop making so many rules and interferring in peoples lives, people could get on with things. Considering Peter is living in the UK, I am wondering if he has looked around himself there lately with the huge amount of useless rules, regulations and other things going on in the UK and the damage it causes.

It was mentioned in the documentary, that it seems most people ignore most of the government rules and it was mentioned they dont pay the taxes either as they see it as unjust and imoral.

This probably then caused further problems when the government promised more free benefits to people that they do not have the money to give. So instead of honesty that there isn't enough money for benefits, ever more debased currency is given out.

It makes you wonder where we go from here with government taxing half of our wages and then debasing the currency to crazy extremes, how do you get this leviathan under control? The rich are happy oppressing the poor and many people want and often need to continue to get benefits, even though the situation ends up as it does. Is their a more fair and equitable system?

Somehow, I think the Argentine situation will spread and those dependent on the government and trapped in fiat will suffer the most. Which is the poor and most vulnerable in our society.

What are your thoughts about inflation?

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The election starts this week on the 22nd October where people can decide to continue with the status quo or go for the new guy promising some radical changes.

Are the elections there (or anywhere else on Earth) even real? Probably the result of it is already decided, because it is manipulated, and the whole election is an illusion. If not the election, then the people (the voters) are manipulated (paid, intimidated or something like that).

I think you pretty much summed it up well there.

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My take here is that Argentina is not isolated on inflation, it's a global issue. Politicians and their empty promises. No man can fix the problem. I never knew that inflation is that high in Argentina. Thanks for sharing. Best wishes.

I think you are right and we are all suffering with very high inflation. In Argentina I think even higher sadly. Buying crypto could be a good way out.

Yes I agree, crypto will go a long long way in aliveating inflation.

Ah inflation and Argentina seems to have always gone hand in hand!

I don't see any changes there I guess. But we may be surprised.

While I was reading your post, I have recognized a couple of patterns that I have experienced while I was living in "hyperinflationary country"

Some feedback from a couple of business owners confirmed that it is hard to run a business there because the owners need to call the suppliers each day to check for price changes and get authorisation for price updates.

That was one of the worst things for any business... You have to change prices DAILY, or even HOURLY, just to be able to have money to buy assets the next day... Or, the idea is to spend money ASAP until it has value...

that people in the city are managing quite well despite the inflation

That was something that I didn't understand how it was possible... But, people in the city were getting along with inflation in some way and better than those in smaller cities and towns... What saved me and my family, were domestic animals and the river... At least, ee had eggs, meat, and fish on the table...

The new radical presidental candidate Javier Milei was quoted by Peter as promising to dollarise the economy if he wins

Again, that was the solution that was implemented in the case of my country... They created a currency backed by EUR and stopped the hyperinflation... The problem was low liquidity, but it was a starting point for recovery... After that, they continued doing the same as before the hyperinflation, so we waiting for the new one... But, that scenario can happen anywhere today...

Luckily, we have cryptocurrencies and we can "save" in them in case of a big chaos...

Thanks for your insights. I haven't lived through so a hyperinflationary situation where the prices were increasing so rapidly and how that may have effected day to day living. Even so, I am totally against fiat money and money printing.

What I found inspiring from the documentary was that among some of the people there was more self responsibility and also people could take advantage of tools available to them that were not say 10 years ago, such as using mobile phones to do transactions and building savings like you said in crypto.

What is also interesting I note (not from the video) is that stable coins could be growing and becoming one of the largest buyers of treasuries... im not sure how that would make them more stable in the long run, but I dont want to be a bag holder there!

People always find the way... Back in the days when I had my experience, there was no crypto stuff, but those who were close to the system have used the hyperinflation very nicely... For example, you had checks (checkbook) and you would buy stuff today, but your bank would take money in 2-3 days... Business owner loses money, and you pay stuff 50%+ less than you should as inflation ate the value...

In the same way, some people bought real estate for some ridiculous prices in those days...

Also, in those times, the government turned a blind eye and left people to do things that aren't 100% legal, as without doing that, there couldn't survive... The same as you said in Argentina...

Those are some very good points. People who started buying property back when we came on the fiat standard have done very well for themselves likewise, probably why there was no complaining about it back then as you may have thought, even though it is impoverishing future generations in a way.

Hello mypathtofire, as a Venezuelan I know this story very well, additionally I currently live in Brazil which has a border with Argentina and Argentines are beginning to arrive here, in both countries it all started because the progressive governments focused on giving money in the form of subsidies to the poor, additional of the nationalization of service companies and the regulation of sales prices of various products, when this occurs it causes a flight of private capital and countries begin to print money to continue giving away in the form of subsidies to the population. At this point, the inflationary crisis, luckily Argentina has the possibility of changing that, although they have high inflation they are still very far from the inflation we had in Venezuela, we can only hope that they choose the change but not only that, they are also prepared to assume that change.

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Thanks for sharing your this. It is crazy to think how far it can go and it keeps on going and making things impossible for everyone. I think mostly, helping poorer people needs to come voluntarily from people and not from the government through inflation. I have heard about how bad it was in Venezuela, how is the situation now? Do people use $ now instead?

quite interesting. I would like to see Argentina also. there are some people on hive too, from Argentina. from Publis0x aswell.

I think it is a great place, I have seen a few around here for sure. Lucky there is crypto to escape the government inflation tax.

Wow I did not knew that Argentina was facing an inflation crisis thanks for the update on this.

Yes, it is over 100% inflation. Thanks for checking it out.

This provides a comprehensive look at the inflation crisis in Argentina, and it's alarming to see how it's affecting both businesses and individuals.

I agree with your skepticism about the government's ability to manage this crisis effectively.

Thanks, it is a great documentary and I for sure recommend people to watch it. We are on our own, there is no point expecting the government to help us.

Hello dear friend @mypathtofire good afternoon
Argentina is a country that has what it takes to be a good country, there is a lot of land to grow food, raise animals to sell and be the largest food suppliers in the world, but no ruler proposes it.
Corruption, and the great theft of money from politicians, was what led our country to be where we are.
Social plans are another big problem in the country, there are many people with these benefits and they do not want to work, so the country will never move forward.
I loved your post, I appreciate the update. Have a great day

Thank you for the first hand information. I do love to view your posts and see how great Argentina is. I know that there are problems with stealing bankers and politicians everywhere, maybe the problem is more worse there in Argentina. People are also addicted to get something for free, even if the hidden cost is much more than the free thing.

It's been a problem ongoing there for quite awhile. It's really too bad because it's a beautiful country with really nice people, just government that isn't the best (kind of like everywhere these days.) In Ecuador they ran into the same problem so badly that they switched to using the US dollar. It's kind of strange to be in a South American country and not have to exchange any of your cash!

I hope they can get out of that mess without the wheel barrows of cash to buy a bread!

Yeah, when he was bringing out the bricks of cash for just a few hundred dollars, you could see how farcical it was becoming. A friend of mine was just back from there and was saying the exchange rate is just getting crazier and crazier. I hope we can all escape the fiat money at somepoint. It has had its day.

The argentine peso used to be pegged to the dollar back in the 90s, and when they removed it they had a lot of issues with the economy. I have been a few times though work back in the 90s, and made some good friends there, so it always worries me when I hear about the financial troubles they are going through. I really hope they are able to get a grip on it soon as its a great country, and its such a shame to seem them going through such problems for so long.

I didnt know about the peg but saw that it used to be very strong economically. That seems to be the start of their troubles and hopefully things will improve for them there, lots of nice people for sure.

Well, I think the inflation is not hitting only Argentina alone but maybe almost every part of the world and sometimes I feel the inflation in my country is worse.
Well, I hope the citizens are able to cope with the inflation

Yeah, it seems pretty bad everywhere right now. Non stop money printing. Hopefully we can try and preserve some value somehow.

In every situation of every country, the poor are always the vulnerable ones. The rich benefits from every situation, inflation or not.

Thank you for sharing

Yes that is sadly the truth. They do everything to keep the poorer people down.

I remember in the former Yugoslavia when inflation was high. I got my salary, went from Slovenia to Croatia, and cashed all the cheques from the Slovenian bank. Then I exchanged them for German marks. When the cheques came to the bank to cash it took a month, inflation was 10% higher every month... you could make good money for a year or so until it all went to hell. 😂😎

That sounds like a smart thing to do! The DM was really appreciating back in the day. I have some friends who lost all their money when the banks "closed" in former Yugoslavia though. I haven't had one of these "bank holidays" and hope to not experience it. It sure makes Bitcoin more compelling.

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